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January 04, 2008

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W.R. Chambers

The case will be dismissed or the defendant will win on the ground that under present circumstances all is fair in war. The highest law in the land is no longer the Constitution; rather it is security.

Bart

There is also some [interesting speculation] by a Howard Gilbert about Padilla himself. (Gilbert's comments are in the Volokh threads linked above and here at Opinio Juris.) The gist of Gilbert's insight is that Padilla has admitted to the facts constituting treason [and other crimes] but that his statements were inadmissible at the criminal trial where Padilla was convicted. In his own civil case, however, if Padilla refuses to talk the normal result is that his claims Will be dismissed. On the other hand, if Padilla does talk (in deposition, for example) he would provide airtight evidence against himself on additional charges. Gilbert's suggestion, which seems plausible, is that this lawsuit raises some risk to Padilla. On the other hand, given that Padilla is presumably locked away for life in a supermax, what's the downside.

A person convicted of treason can be executed.

Another interesting angle is confidentiality. In [fraud, conspiracy, and] aiding & abetting cases brought by non-prosecutorial third parties, lawyers sometimes argue that the case should be dismissed because the lawyers can't defend themselves without breaching client confidences. What will be the Executive Branch's position be in this case?

Most likely, the Government will seek to dismiss based on the state secrets privilege as they have in the civil suits concerning the Terrorist Surveillance Program. However, the Government will not exercise this privilege to keep Padilla from talking about the alleged "torture" he underwent. That story was presented in a motion to dismiss in his criminal prosecution. Rather, both this suit and the TSP suits are barely disguised discovery fishing expeditions to gain access to classified material and testimony from Yoo and others in the government.

Paragraph 20 of the complaint says that Yoo is responsible for memos he did not sign, but which he principally drafted. There's an interesting issue there: to what extent is Yoo legally responsible for the memo if under the organizational structure of the OLC the memo wasn't formally issued by Yoo?

The plaintiffs allege in paragraph 95 that Yoo's participation in the writing of the Torture Memos "provided essential legal approval [for the bad acts]" Again, would it matter if [as a matter of law and OLC practice] Yoo himself could not legally provide that approval? That is, when Yoo doesn't sign the memo or formally issue it, does Yoo provide "legal approval"?

Paragraph 17 says that President Bush declared Padilla to be an enemy combatant "based upon Defendant Yoo's legal opinion and Ashcroft's recommendation." I may be wrong, but as I understand it, the OLC can bind everyone in the Executive Branch except the president. If so, then does sole responsibility for the declaration lie with the president?

Good summary of the multiple causation problems with this frivolous suit.

Paragraph 5 alleges facts giving standing to Padilla's mother: she was denied her constitutional rights to familial association and communication. This complaint was so carefully constructed that I'd love to know the exact reasons she was added as a plaintiff. Howard Gilbert provided one possible explanation, discussed above: Padilla himself cannot afford to give testimony in this civil case and his mother is like a "second arrow in the quiver." [Moreover, as a practical matter it may be difficult to get testimony from Padilla to support his claim, given his incarceration and his mental health.]

This sounds like a reasonable guess as to why the plaintiff's attorneys added the mother. However, Padilla is the only one who can testify as to why he is not an enemy combatant and to the alleged torture, which is the basis for both of their cases. I do not see how the mother can proceed if Padilla refuses to testify on 5th Amendment grounds and is dismissed.

Bart

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Gene Smith

So, don't they need to join Lynne-Stewart as a co-defendant? ;)

Howard Gilbert

You are missing the real legal ethics problem here. Padilla's current lawyers are driven to make a political or ideological point. That gets in the way of representing their client. Padilla is about to receive a stiff sentence in Miami, but he is in a unique position to get that sentence reduced. Before coming to the US, he went through a two week crash "terrorism" training course with all the people responsible for 9/11. These "high valued" detainees are in Guantanamo where they will eventually be brought before a military tribunal. Padilla is the only person who could personally and directly testify about their activities. He could get his sentence reduced in exchange for that testimony about the "higher ups", but only if he has lawyers who represent his own best interest and do not have their own agenda (where they are acting as private prosecutors after a different type of "higher up" named Yoo).

annika

padilla is the only person who could personally and directly testify about their activities.He could get his sentence reduced in exchange for that testimony about the higher ups ,but only if he has lawyers who represent his own best interest and do not have their own agenda.
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